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Makar is elite, but this defence falls apart without a true second

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GL GloryDaysHQ Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 20 posts Sep 8, 2026, 2:11 AM
Admit what? That half this fanbase kept insisting we were "deep on D" all summer while I was saying the second pair was one injury away from a dumpster fire? Toews goes down and suddenly everyone's a doctor diagnosing why we've coughed up three straight leads at Ball Arena in the third. Mystery solved, fellas. Cale Makar could be Gretzky out there and it wouldn't matter when the pair behind him is leaking chances every shift. This is exactly why I stopped touching our puck line games weeks ago, took my C$ elsewhere, actually cashed since. Wait for the fanboys to pile in telling me I'm not a real fan 😏
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FA Fanatic_Life Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 75 posts Sep 8, 2026, 5:20 AM
Kept receipts on that summer take, or is this a retrofit? Every lineup in the league is one injury from trouble somewhere, so the warning itself proves nothing. Show me ice time and goals against from those three third periods before I sign off on pinning the whole collapse on one pair.
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SO Sophie88 Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 6 posts Sep 8, 2026, 8:21 AM
tbh I was at the Ball Arena loss where we blew the third, watched the second pair get hemmed in shift after shift, and it was painful 🔥 Cale can't play 30 minutes every night like a superhero, someone's gotta eat those tough minutes with him gone you just know every team fears injuries, but our lot never make it easy, Toews goes down and the whole back end looks lost 🤬 not asking for a top pair, just someone who can kill a lead instead of coughing it up. gimme ANYONE competent back there 🙏
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JA Jack_Fan Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 112 posts Sep 8, 2026, 12:18 PM
Fanatic_Life, fair challenge, so here's the honest answer: the boxcar numbers from those three third periods at Ball Arena won't tell you the whole story on their own, and I'd caveat any small sample anyway. Three periods is three periods, not a season. But I keep my own tracking sheets, and the pattern is blunt: with Toews out, the second pair has been getting pinned in their own end on repeat shifts, Sophie saw it live and so did the shot attempt tallies. That's the mechanism behind the blown leads, tired Cale logskying 28+ minutes while the pair behind him bleeds zone time. GloryDaysHQ, you get partial credit, the depth question was real all summer. There's a nuance here though: the roster was built to survive one injury, but Toews was the wrong single point of failure because there's no true partner to stabilize the second pair behind him. Makar can be elite and the depth chart can still be shy one body; both things are true, depending how you count it.
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DA DaveArmy Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 54 posts Sep 8, 2026, 2:30 PM
I've sat through a few rebuilds at the old barns, and this feels familiar — Cale carrying everything while the second pair wobbles. Toews out was always the thin ice, folks 😄
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BA BadBeatPTSD Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 48 posts Sep 8, 2026, 4:27 PM
twenty-some years pulling wire taught me a panel always gives out at the weakest splice, and everybody acts shocked when the breaker trips. jack, three periods is three periods, fair enough, but three straight home games where the lead melted the exact same way is a pattern, and patterns dont wait around for a big enough sample to make their point 😄 Fanatic_Life, the "every lineup is one injury from trouble" line doesnt wash with me, and i'll tell you why. watch as long as I have and you'll get it: the real contenders lose a top-four d-man, shuffle the pairs, and nothing changes. we lose devon toews and the middle of the ice turns to soup, cale starts chasing the game all over the rink. measure twice, cut once, that second pair needed fixing last summer, and macfarland's still got till the deadline to do something about it.
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FA FaithfulLoyal Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 12 posts Sep 8, 2026, 4:59 PM
Alright, BadBeatPTSD, you're onto something with the breaker analogy, but on condition that we keep it honest: the pattern only holds if we agree the pattern started the night Toews got hurt, not before. Before that the second pair was fine, not spectacular, fine. What I noticed watching the third-period collapses is more specific than "the defence falls apart": every time the lead started melting, Bednar kept rolling Makar against the top line and the second pair got the hardest sheltered minutes against the other team's forecheck, which they simply couldn't exit against. Same script three home games running. So yeah, depth is the issue. But the fix isn't panic-trading for a name. It's minutes management and one legitimate top-four addition. Show me a GM who does both before the deadline and I'll eat my words happily.
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GA Gary_Legend Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 43 posts Sep 8, 2026, 9:12 PM
Fair point, FaithfulLoyal. The timeline matters. I'd add one wrinkle though: even before Toews went down, that pair was sheltered minutes. Dig a bit deeper once he's back.
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