Leafs finished 28th with 78 points
Back-to-back road trip through Utah right before this one, so the home date vs Buffalo on the 15th is where I'm putting my money - took Toronto on the moneyline at the bookie and a small sprinkle on the over, because 299 goals against isn't getting fixed by October. 🍺 If the defence shows up at Scotiabank I cash both; if not, lesson banked and on and forgotten.
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Tom, I've got the same side of this one, with one caveat about the sample size, 82 games of 299 against is a big enough dataset that one offseason won't erase it, but early October form is noisy. A few numbers worth noting before you load up: 28th overall with 78 points, yet 253 scored says the offence travels fine; the leak is the defence. The wrinkle in the schedule is that Vegas and Colorado back-to-back on the 9th and 10th, then Utah on the 14th, means tired legs at Scotiabank on the 15th. Moneyline Toronto I get, but I'd rather take the over than trust the bluelue to show up cold. 📊
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Jack, sample size cuts both ways. Early October form being noisy is exactly why I won't touch Toronto's moneyline there. They fly home from that Utah game the night before, and a team that leaked 299 doesn't suddenly defend on zero rest. I'm on Buffalo plus the puck line, smaller stake than Tom's, and if the over lands instead I'll just tip my glass 🍺
Bankroll discipline wins.
Love how Ben's suddenly a travel-schedule expert when he tanked his last three Leafs calls outright 😂 there's a reason the fanboys stopped quoting your picks, buddy. Zero rest argument is cute but Buffalo leaked worse than anyone and their defence on the second half of a back-to-back won't look pretty either. I'm on Toronto plus the over, took it at the book, call it a hunch from a guy who's actually cashed lately 🤡💸
Enforcer, easy to chirp when you're not the one putting money down 😂 Ben's got a point though, that Utah trip the night before is rough. Still, over's the safer play tbh 🔥
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Hate to be the pedant in the room, but the rest angle cuts both ways: tired teams usually still generate offence against a Buffalo defence we haven't seen prove anything, whereas Toronto's own 299-against problem gets worse on a back-to-back from Utah. Context matters here - one road game the night before doesn't invalidate the moneyline, though I'd honestly rather take the over than chase Toronto straight up at the book. Small sample on Buffalo's new season too, so price your entries accordingly 📊
Context beats a bare stat.
Zoe, everyone keeps parroting the "299 against" like it's still true in October 🤬 that roster got gutted over the summer, new goalie tandem and all. You're pricing last year's corpse. Tired legs sure, but Buffalo on home ice at Scotiabank? I'm backing them all day, over and moneyline 🔥 ah well, nowt to do but wait for the 15th.
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Steve_Fan has a point about the corpse pricing, but context matters - one summer turnover rarely flips a 299-against profile by mid-October. I'd take the over over either side on the moneyline.
Do the math before you argue.
Everyone keep citing the 299 like the schedule doesn't matter, huh 😂 back-to-back after Utah AND Vegas? Nah, our legs are gonna be toast and Buffalo's young speed will feast. I'm on the over too, hate to say it 🤬 still think we squeak it at home though, through thick and thin lol
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Schedule note everyone's missing: Utah on the 14th, so Toronto plays three road games in six nights before Buffalo. Even a rebuilt defence wobbles on the second half of that. Over's the safer lean for me. 📊
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Gary, three road games in six nights? we've played worse stretches on a bender 😤 Leafs at home vs Buffalo is a lock feel for me, my C$ is staying on the win tbh 💪
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Say what you want about the schedule, but my sheet keeps pointing at the goal split: 253 for, 299 against over 82 games is a -46 differential, and that shape rarely flips in six exhibition-level days before October 15. Toronto's own price on the moneyline will be shaded because of the home crowd money, so the value sits on the total, Buffalo's pace plus that three-games-in-six-nights road swing through Vegas, Colorado and Utah is exactly when a leaky defence stops cleaning up its own mistakes.
Ben, -46 differential? Every game starts 0-0 my guy 😂 home opener energy vs Buffalo, that crowd at Scotiabank gonna carry them 🔥 still on the win 💪
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UpsetKing, crowd energy doesn't pay out, I've learned that the expensive way more than once 😭 Checked the starting goalies yet? That's where my ticket starts, if Toronto's sitting their guy on the second half of that road trip, the "lock" evaporates. Splitting it anyway: C$50 moneyline plus a half-unit on the puck line, and the over only if both starters are confirmed. Home opener bounce-backs are real but -46 is -46, so I'm not going big. Landed or didn't, we'll know by Wednesday night. See you all after the final buzzer 🔥💸
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