Honest question, fam: is it time to trade our captain while he still
Sell the captain? 😏 Bold thread, I'll give you that. Look, I put a C$50 prop on us making the playoffs this spring and I'd love to cash it, but even I can see the math here, C$11M+ on the back end while the window's basically a crack, not an open door. If some desperate contender out west wants to cough up a first and a legit prospect for him, you take that haul and run before the fanboys pile in screaming about loyalty.
Retool around the young D core, eat some losses next season, and actually have a team worth watching at TD Garden in two years instead of a first-round exit and a cap coma. Ride the window one more spring? Laughable really, the bookies already priced that funeral, and I don't fade my own money. 🤡💸
Sell the captain? 😏 Bold thread, I'll give you that. Look, I put a C$50 prop on us making the playoffs this spring and I'd love to cash it, but even I can see the math here, C$11M+ on the back end while the window's basi…
You put C$50 on the playoffs and now you're suddenly a capologist, eh? If he still produces like he does, a haul only materialises at the deadline when a contender gets desperate, till then I'd rather ride the window one more spring. I might be wrong, on condition that someone shows me the numbers on what an aging captain actually fetches at that price.
Hype isn't an argument.
Ride the window, no question 🔥 He's the reason the young D core even gets to breathe out there, you deal the captain and the room goes sideways overnight. I've watched this group at the Garden all season, there's still one more real run in them tbh. Deadline desperation will bring the haul anyway if we're out of it, ah well, nowt to do till then 💪
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Funny that Enforcer's the one doing cap math with a C$50 prop on the line — anyway, I'm with ValueDan here. One caveat on the room-goes-sideways argument: that's a small sample, one locker room impression, and the returns on selling a productive captain at a panic deadline are usually worse than the haul people fantasize about. If a desperate contender backs up a genuine package come March, sure, but you ride the window till then. 📊
I keep my own tables 📊
been watching this team since the days at the Garden with the banners and the smoke, and I'll tell you what I've learned - you never know which spring is the last one until it's gone. Back in the day we all figured there'd be another run the year after, and half the time that next year never came. Windows close quieter than they open.
so yeah, my money's with StandsGuy and ValueDan. the young D core is nice, but kids learn faster skating next to a real captain than they do holding a haul of futures that might never fit. trade him at a deadline when you're out of it, sure - but sell a productive captain in September? watch as long as I have and you'll get it: those returns always look shinier on paper than on the ice 😉
Seen it all, lads.
BadBeat with the wisdom bomb again... you never know which spring's the last one, that's the whole truth right there 😱 ValueDan talking about waiting for a desperate contender at the deadline, nah man, that's gambling with the one thing we can't get back, time. Ride the window, heart says it all 🙌🔥
On the terraces since I was a kid.
heart says it all... fella, heart kept a lot of gm's employed in this town long after the shelf got bare 😄
i've had season tickets since the old days, and every fire sale i ever regretted was the one we didn't make soon enough. you hold onto a guy one spring too long and you get a sixth-round pick and a bag of pucks, seen it all before. BadBeat's right that you never know which spring's the last one, that cuts both ways, though. we've been "one more run" people for a while now, and the cap math doesn't care how loud the Garden gets. if a desperate contender offers a first and a real prospect for the captain at the deadline, you answer the phone. mind you, i'm not saying fire-sale him tomorrow... ride it to the deadline, see where the standings sit, then decide with the head and not the heart.
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BadBeat_Nightmare, honest question for you then: at what price do you actually pull the trigger? Deadlines don't refund panic sellers, and every buyer knows we're backed against the cap with C$11M+ on the books. Show me one deal where the selling team got fair value in a bidding war it never got to hold. Not convinced "wait for desperation" is the same as gambling the window away.
BadBeat_Nightmare nailed it, I keep my own tables and every retool-too-late column I've tracked ended ugly. Caveat: get a real haul, not futures picks and vibes 📊
I keep my own tables 📊
BadBeat's shelf line hit me harder than I'd like to admit, and I keep my own tables too 📊 the honest answer is the trigger price only shows up at the deadline when a buyer gets desperate, so debating it now is half theatre. Small sample though, one spring isn't a sample at all, ride the window, keep the phone on.
Context beats a bare stat.