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A 299-goals-against Leafs team has no business talking playoffs

Debate General Hockey Talk Toronto Maple Leafs 15 posts ·0 views ·Posted: Sep 25, 2026, 2:50 AM ·Updated: Sep 27, 2026, 12:49 PM
EN Enforcer_YYZ Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 52 posts Sep 25, 2026, 2:50 AM
299 goals against and half this thread still thinks playoffs are coming, laughable really. 28th overall, 78 points, and the schedule opens with Vegas on the road October 9, good luck with that. I'll take the fanboys' optimism over the puck line any day, easier to flip for C$ than their takes 🤡💸
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FA Fanatic_Life Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 75 posts Sep 25, 2026, 5:37 AM
You're betting against them? Then show me the puck line you'd actually put C$ on, or is that all chirping from the cheap seats?
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PA Paul_Reds Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 4 posts Sep 25, 2026, 9:08 AM
Nah, we've been counted out before and Vegas game'll prove it 🔥 299 GA stings but hearts say it all, 253 for ain't nothing either 🙌
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ZO ZoeTillIDie Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 39 posts Sep 25, 2026, 12:43 PM
Fanatic_Life has a point - if you're that confident, put a number on it. But the table itself does most of the arguing for Enforcer_YYZ: 299 against in 82 games is nearly 3.65 a night, and no road opener in Vegas on October 9 fixes a defensive sample that size. Even the +54 goal differential people keep hiding behind 32 wins... wait, that's backwards, 253 scored, 299 allowed means they were outscored across the season, so playoff chatter needs more than hearts. Small sample though, I'll grant the opening stretch tells us something new.
Context beats a bare stat.
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BA BadBeatPTSD Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 48 posts Sep 25, 2026, 4:20 PM
Folks, I've held season tickets through more rebuilds than I care to count, and back in the day we knew the difference between a bad team and a young one learning. Watch as long as I have and you'll get it, 299 against is the first kind, full stop. Hearts don't fix defences, Paul, they only sell tickets 😄
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UN Uncle_Faithful Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 21 posts Sep 25, 2026, 5:02 PM
Fanatic_Life wants a number? Sure thing, mate - I'd drop C$50 against Toronto in Vegas on October 9, but honestly the puck line's a trap either way when you leak 3.65 a night 😏 Paul, hearts don't sit 28th in the league, defence does. Bet my yearly cheque the playoffs talk dies before Nashville even rolls into town 🤡💸
Show me your ROI first 😏
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JA Jack_Fan Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 112 posts Sep 25, 2026, 7:01 PM
Uncle_Faithful, C$50 against a puck line proves nothing, one game in Vegas is a sample of one. Put it over 82 and then talk.
I keep my own tables 📊
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MI MillieBlues Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 12 posts Sep 25, 2026, 9:26 PM
Jack_Fan, over 82 they went 32-36 and shipped 299, that IS the sample 😂 the Vegas opener just cashes early. Wait for the fanboys to pile in 🤡
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BE Ben_Ultra Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 35 posts Sep 25, 2026, 10:31 PM
Small sample though, 82 games is the only sample we've got, and 299 against doesn't shrink. Jack, season-long your way, they're worse. 📊
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EM Emma_23 Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 14 posts Sep 26, 2026, 1:33 AM
Jack talking like 82 games needs a footnote 😂 mate, that's the whole textbook. I'd put real money on them flopping in Vegas October 9, easy call 💸
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GA Gary_Legend Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 43 posts Sep 26, 2026, 3:34 AM
Everyone keeps waving that 299 around like it's the whole story, but dig a bit deeper and ask what actually costs a club playoff hockey, because 253 goals for says this roster could score with half the league, it just had no structure in its own zone. Depends how you count it, sure: 32 wins and 78 points is the only real sample we've got, small sample though it may be for judging what a summer of fixes changes. Where I'll push back on Millie and Emma is the October 9 opener doing anything for your C$50. One road game in Vegas against a strong team proves nothing either way, I've watched clubs drop the opener and still make noise by March. The stretch that tells you something is Buffalo at home, then Utah and Colorado on the road within four days. If they're still leaking chances against the Sabres at Scotiabank, then fine, I'll stand with the pessimists. Until then, 28th is a starting point, not a verdict. 📊
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MI Millie_Reds Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 29 posts Sep 26, 2026, 5:48 AM
Gary, structure doesn't fix a 299-against defence overnight, mate. I've seen this movie before 😂 already got a prop on Vegas October 9, easy C$ profit 🤡💸
Show me your ROI first 😏
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RI RideOrDieZone Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 34 posts Sep 27, 2026, 3:37 AM
Gary, I keep my own tables and 253 for is real, sure, but context matters: scoring with half the league while bleeding 299 against usually means empty possession hockey. Ask yourself how often a club fixes its own zone in one summer without a change behind the bench or on the blue line. Vegas on October 9 will tell us more in sixty minutes than any projection I can run.
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GL GloryDaysHQ Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 20 posts Sep 27, 2026, 10:33 AM
Millie already cashing prop talk before a puck drops 😂 RideOrDie's right though - 299 against doesn't fix itself, no bench change either. My C$ is staying glued to my wallet 🤡
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DA DaveFaithful Newcomer★☆☆☆☆ · 32 posts Sep 27, 2026, 12:49 PM
Don't laugh, guys, but maybe I'm wrong here, can fixing the zone really happen by October 9 in Vegas without any bench change? 😅 Still learning this stuff, thanks for the tables anyway 🙏
Learn something new every day.
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